Monday, August 18, 2008

McCain cheated? proof he knew the questions ahead of time. UPDATED with video link.

You can read the transcript of the forum tonight here.

I did take the liberty to edit the transcript slightly so it made sense and because it was ugly. Also, the emphasis added below is mine.

Did they have the questions ahead of time? All I could find was that they would be provided the topics to be covered. But whether or not they were both given a list of the exact questions, I simply cannot find anything on that one way or the other.

But one of them DID have the questions ahead of time, as proven below. The following is evidence that either McCain was NOT in a quiet room during Obama's interview OR that he indeed had the questions ahead of time. If Obama was not provided the questions as well, then McCain clearly cheated.

In a Church even, how brazen.

Oh, I did a Vid. :)

Warren with Obama:

Q. OKAY LET’S GO TO EDUCATION. AMERICA RIGHT NOW 23 RANKS 19TH IN HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION. WE’RE FIRST IN INCARCERATIONS.

A. NOT GOOD.

Q. NOT GOOD. 80 PERCENT OF AMERICANS RECENT POLE SAID THEY BELIEVE IN MERIT PAY FOR TEACHERS.

1. I’M NOT ASKING DO YOU THINK ALL TEACHERS SHOULD GET A RAISE.

2. DO YOU THINK BETTER TEACHERS SHOULD BE PAID BETTER?

3. THEY SHOULD BE MAKING MORE THAN POOR TEACHERS?

So, essentially on this topic, there were technically only two questions, the ones I've labelled 2 and 3. But one COULD make the argument that the comment I labelled as 1 was also a question.

Now to McCain:

Q ALL RIGHT. LET’S TALK ABOUT EDUCATION. AMERICA 18 RANKS 19TH IN HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATIONS, BUT WE’RE FIRST IN 19 INCARCERATION. EVERYBODY SAYS THEY WANT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY IN SCHOOLS?

A UH-HUH.

Q ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF AMERICA SAYS THEY SUPPORT MERIT PAY FOR THE BEST TEACHERS. NOW, I DON’T WANT TO HEAR YOUR STUMP SPEECH ON EDUCATION?

A YES. YES. AND FIND BAD TEACHERS ANOTHER LINE OF WORK.

Q YOU KNOW –

A CAN I –

Q YOU ARE ANSWERING SO QUICKLY.

A CAN I –

Q YOU WANT TO PLAY A GAME OF POKER?

See that? Warren didn't ask him ANY questions. Yet, McCain knew to answer the three questions posed to Obama. Wonder how that happened?

UPDATE:
Sawgrass727 found

this:

To avoid bias, and give America a true and fair comparison the questions to both candidates will be identical to provide a fair comparison, although the follow-up questions may differ, based on their response.

Sen. Barack Obama will be interviewed first, as determined by the flip of a coin. To insure fairness, Sen. McCain will not hear the questions of the first hour.

The Saddleback Civil Forum will focus on the core convictions of each candidate that would shape how each one would lead and their views on America's role, direction, and culture. Each interview will be segmented into four themes of 12 ½ minutes each:

STEWARDSHIP: Questions on the constitution, the role of government, security, education, energy

LEADERSHIP: Questions on personal character, competence, convictions, experience to be president

WORLDVIEW: Questions on life, family, evil, freedom, Christianity, Islam

AMERICA'S ROLE IN THE WORLD: Questions on going to war, on America's responsibility to bless other nations, poverty and disease, human rights, religious liberty, corruption, vision for America.

Now, if we can confirm Obama did NOT have the questions, we may be onto something.

UPDATE 2:
Nice catch from Lauren S, from the transripts:

9 DEFINE MARRIAGE.

10 A UNION — A UNION BETWEEN MAN AND WOMAN, BETWEEN

11 ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN, THAT’S MY DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE.

12 ARE WE GOING TO GET BACK TO THE IMPORTANCE OF SUPREME

13 COURT JUSTICES.

14 Q WE’LL GET TO THAT.

15 A ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

16 Q YOU GOT ALL MY QUESTIONS, GOOD.

Huh.

UPDATE 3:

Thank you all for the recs. I desparately need to go to bed, so if evidence becomes available that Obama DID have the questions as well, please Unrecommend so this diary gets removed from the rec list. If you find out Obama DID NOT have the questions, then PLEASE push this story as hard as you can. Thanks and goodnight. :)

UPDATE 4:

Well, so much for sleep! As I was laying in bed, I realized that all three of them, Warren, McCain and Obama were certainly behaving like they didn't have the questions. In fact, comments from all of them ABOUT the questions is why I assumed that they DID NOT have the questions prior.

25 Q. OKAY. LET’S GO THROUGH THE TOUGH ONES.

1 A. I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY TOUGH.

2 Q. NO THAT WAS A FREEBIE. THAT WAS A GIMME.

17 Q. OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. THIS IS A

18 CHARACTER QUESTION.

19 A. I HOPE THEY GET EASIER.

20 Q. THIS ONE ISN’T ANY EASIER.

1 A. THEY DON’T GET ANY EASIER?

2 Q. NO THEY DON’T GET ANY EASIER.

20 Q ALL RIGHT. LET’S GO INTO THE TOUGH ONES. THAT

21 WAS JUST A GIMMIE.

Honestly, all of that posturing about the "tough" questions is why I assumed they did not have the questions beforehand. And we know McCain had them, perhaps Obama did too (we don't know for sure yet, he did make that "cheating" comment about the orphan issue). But if they did have the questions, why pretend otherwise? I don't get that.

UPDATE 5:

Video Link.

YouTube John McCain

Relevant section: minute 2:00 to 2:56. Please watch and see for yourself. Take note of the hand chops, he is answering three questions. Watch Warren's facial expressions, he looks surprised. Watch McCain's face when Warren makes his comment about answering so fast and about poker, he sure looks like the kid with his hand caught in the cookie jar.

Yes, there are some below who call this speculating. McCain's old, who cares if they gave him the questions? He needs a little help. It does us no good to cry foul. Let's give him a pass. This makes us look bad. There is no proof. And on and on. To which I say: grow some and open your frickin' eyes! If they both had the questions, fine. If only one of them did, then that is cheating, pure and simple. I simply want to find out. And so should you.

But, please, feel free to disagree.

(Sorry, I have no idea how to plop the one minute of relevant video into a diary. If someone can explain how, I will attempt it.)

Still no reply e-mail from Saddleback, FYI.

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